Curse

cookiehoarder · Sep 21, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37

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Originally Posted by 78zrider

what really sucks is my guild came up with it and now we dont even use it...

since EVERYONE uses it now Lol

Yeah we fought you guys in halls when you first came up with it. iQ was running it as well.

Navaros · Sep 21, 2005, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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Originally Posted by Rey Lentless

Eh, I don't care if you didn't get good drops, that doesn't mean I'm going to run an IWAY with bad players who decided that's their best chance to get any fame at all.

You're still getting better fame holding the hall, than running an iway... that should be a no brainer.

as to your "getting better fame holding the Hall" comment... not really. maybe after you hold it 10 times in a row, it might start getting better. but for the most part getting fame for holding Hall is no different than getting fame from any other map.

i've won in HoH many times. i started using IWAY simply because short of having a Guild with lots of great players online, it's the fastest way to get into a party that will probably be marginally successful. sure i could wait for good players to assemble, which often takes upwards of an hour. or sometimes two. then all us good players could do one run, maybe even win HoH and earn a "whopping" 6 or 8 fame for that. it's a huge time investment, with very little tangible return on that investment.

or, i could join any random IWAY party in 2 minutes flat and end up getting the same amount of fame within 20 minutes.

cookiehoarder · Sep 21, 2005, 08:43 PM // 20:43

Actually...Holding halls is more fame...If you go through 75% of the maps and get to halls it's better, but if you skip from Uw->Vault/Halls then...Of course you won't get good fame. Yet, you can't get 40 fame from 1 normal win.

Mirra The Restorer · Sep 21, 2005, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by mamluk

Stop complaining and start thinking about ways to fight it.

please do...ill play an iway warrior every now and then cause its fun but the new fotm is basically an iway counter so you'll be complaining about that in a few weeks.

Itok · Sep 21, 2005, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by calithratheheala

True. I just am tired of not being prepared (although by now i probably should be) for a group of warriors to come and slaughter me

OMFG! This, sadly, is the dregs of lazy RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs who ahve brought the state of MMOs to where they are. FFS, follow the advise of one of the many who have reposnded politely above or go fukkin read your skills and owrk the shit yourself.

Rather, please pick up your computer and throw it out the nearest window. Your kind isn't ready to mingle with the rest of us who, when faced with something we don't like, will take some type of self fufilling action to deal wiht the issue ourself.

kthxplzdrvthru

chudak · Sep 22, 2005, 01:39 AM // 01:39

IWAY is not a great build that unbalances the game, it is just an solid build that is easy to run. You only need 2 clases to do so (W/R and Necros) and with 6 wars its very hard to lose just because one of them made a mistake so it's noob-friendly.

There are good and bad teams/players running it but that is true with every build.

Fact is IWAY is definitly NOT better then dual smite / ranger spike and other atm dominant builds but its just a very easy build to play and it way very good when it came up because noone was ready for it.

Same is with smite.

Same will be with ranger spikers probably.

Soon people will find a way to neutralize them and make a counter-build.
The one that will not be able to will cry for a nerf.

Shinomori · Sep 22, 2005, 01:46 AM // 01:46

I think, personally, that you people just like to swing the nerf bat around.

Next thing you know, you people will complain about Ether feast because it drains energy AND heals!

/end sarcasm

But seriously, I haven't ever had problems with IWAY teams. Especially since I take my own kind of group into arenas. 8-man ranger teams w/ pets. Fun.

Diablo Paladin · Sep 22, 2005, 01:49 AM // 01:49

IWAY isn't designed to hold the altar. Its designed to farm fame from the first few maps - Underworld, Burial Mounds and maybe further.

Legendary Battousai · Sep 22, 2005, 03:35 AM // 03:35

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=62595

lets nerf flare, it owns.

Axle_Fieshe · Sep 22, 2005, 04:05 AM // 04:05

IWAY is just a fun build. I know i don't get too far with it (furthest is probly Unholy Temples), but I love seeing 6-7 Warriors bashing the crap out of an enemy, so funny :P

Lag Hell · Sep 22, 2005, 04:08 AM // 04:08

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Originally Posted by calithratheheala

I think the new IWAY build is pure crap and unblances the game. I was just wondering if anybody knows if GW or Anet has any plans to nerf IWAY avenge you and when it will happen.

Now...u cant just nerf all ur problems...if u get pwn3d by another team and come around to these forums and yell NERF!!! NERF!!! NERF!!!! thered be nothing to play in several months

twicky_kid · Sep 22, 2005, 04:17 AM // 04:17

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Originally Posted by Lag Hell

Now...u cant just nerf all ur problems...if u get pwn3d by another team and come around to these forums and yell NERF!!! NERF!!! NERF!!!! thered be nothing to play in several months

that's not true. the reason you have seen the shift to other builds is b/c 1-2 builds dominated hoh and gvg. now we are seeing an increase in different builds b/c of the changes.

if you make a change you change something else w/o knowing it. anet cannot predict how changes will really affect the game till players get ahold of it.

by that time it catches like wildfire and is everywhere with in days. changes are good b/c they make you think up new strategies to keep the game fresh.

Rey Lentless · Sep 22, 2005, 04:51 AM // 04:51

This isn't one of those things that needs to be nerfed though. It may be common and rampant, but it's not overpowered.

78zrider · Sep 22, 2005, 12:35 PM // 12:35

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Originally Posted by Rey Lentless

Which guild is that?

I look at it as 'noobish' for the following reason:

It's not a build that is designed to win/hold the hall. So you're basically saying.. I wasn't going to get there anyway, so I'm going to run this build that's easy to run that might let me beat teams with a 'gimmick' that they may have not planned for.

So it's more of a fame farming (and not particularly good at it either) build that you're running because you figure you can't win the hall anyway. That sounds noobish to me.

When it first came out, it was blowing people away and you could get to the hall with it, and win.. but those days are over really. You can still get there with a well setup iway team with good players, but there are still other builds far superior for holding it. So if you're a decent player with aspirations of winning/holding the hall.. it's really not a build you want to use.

UDA made the build with 2 heal monks , 1 necro and rest was w/r. we went to halls won 3 times then got beaten. next day everyone did iway. we used healers + necro tho because necro isnt always dependable since once he's down there goes the healing . most people use 1 necro and rest W/R for the DPS

Schorny · Sep 22, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Diablo Paladin

IWAY isn't designed to hold the altar. Its designed to farm fame from the first few maps - Underworld, Burial Mounds and maybe further.

Have you played against Microsoft Excel's Team yet?

They hold the hall a few times a day and running an awesome IWAY build. Sure, you can't hold the hall as long as you could with spirit spam, but his team gets 5-6 wins in the hall nearly every run.

Just because IWAY is easy to play doesn't mean that is a 'noobish' build. You can win HoH and you can hold the hall with it. It's just different than you would be with for example a ranger spike...

User Name · Sep 22, 2005, 03:10 PM // 15:10

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Originally Posted by Schorny

Have you played against Microsoft Excel's Team yet?

They hold the hall a few times a day and running an awesome IWAY build. Sure, you can't hold the hall as long as you could with spirit spam, but his team gets 5-6 wins in the hall nearly every run.

Just because IWAY is easy to play doesn't mean that is a 'noobish' build. You can win HoH and you can hold the hall with it. It's just different than you would be with for example a ranger spike...

it's a "noobish" build because it requires no skill. You run in and hack and slash the other team until three or more of your allies die and then you slam IWAY and hack and slash some more.

Elena · Sep 22, 2005, 03:36 PM // 15:36

all this requires is 1 N/Me heck even the pre build one can stop em shadow of fear ftw!

User Name · Sep 22, 2005, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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Originally Posted by Elena

all this requires is 1 N/Me heck even the pre build one can stop em shadow of fear ftw!

coupling shadow of fear with Spiteful Spirit is a nice way to take out IWAY teams with the quickness.

Hanuman li Tosh · Sep 22, 2005, 04:15 PM // 16:15

lol good old iway. my usual gang in tombs rips thru iway quite easilly. the other day tho my group was already sleeping and one of my other friends invited me into an iway group. we couldnt take the hall with it, but that was about it. i was expecting to get owned since we owned so many iway teams already, but this was not the case. we farmed plenty of fame with it, just couldnt beat the fabulous 8 in HoH.

Rey Lentless · Sep 22, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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UDA made the build with 2 heal monks , 1 necro and rest was w/r. we went to halls won 3 times then got beaten. next day everyone did iway. we used healers + necro tho because necro isnt always dependable since once he's down there goes the healing . most people use 1 necro and rest W/R for the DPS

If you guys saw it the next day, then I think you copied. The transformers were running it for a few days before they saw it copied (except for IQ who got beat by it a few times.. then started using it later in the day).

But it's nothing real complicated, it was probably 'invented' by a few different guilds.